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Dear Fat Broad,
I am a 23 year old male student who often fantasizes about being
with two women at the same time. When I say being with two women
I don't necessarily mean in a sexual context. Even when in a relationship
I feel emotionally unfulfilled. I've never actually had sex with
two women (I've played around a little), but I'm fairly certain
that the act would be a positive experience as long as there is
an appropriate emotional attachment between each of us (I'm not
very big on sex without relationships or trust.) My question is,
where and how would I find a respectable partner or partners whom
might compliment my obviously common male desire? Or if it is
just too difficult to find attractive, intellectual, bisexual
women who won't think I'm just an ordinary self-seeking male,
how do I try to quell or quench these desires? |
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Well, boychik, being an attractive, intellectual, bisexual woman
myself, and knowing quite a few others, I wouldn't exactly say
we're as rare as hen's teeth. So I wouldn't throw in the towel
just yet.
If I may parse what you've written, it sounds to me like you're
feeling unsatisfied by traditional, monogamous relationships with
individual women. You also have some strong fantasies about being
part of a relationship with more than one partner. Being that
you're heterosexual, that would mean two women. Part of those
fantasies is the sexual fantasy of being with two women at the
same time, but it doesn't sound as if the two-hot-bi-babes-all-over-me-at-the-same-time
sexual threesome is the most important thing to you here.
This is what Martha Stewart would call a "good thing." Guys who
are after MFF threesomes for purely sexual reasons rarely end
up in them, in my experience. When they do, they're very superficial,
which can be fine if that's what you're looking for. But they
also tend to be very much fraught with emotional and relationship
difficulties... which I guess might also be fine, if that's what
you really want...
What you're fantasizing about, to get back to the subject at hand,
is loosely termed as polyamory, meaning "many loves." It's a pretty
good catch-all term to cover people who maintain multiple romantic/sexual/love
relationships rather than maintaining a single, monogamous dyad
relationship. Polyamory can allow for literally an infinite number
of possible combinations of beloveds, and there are an awful lot
of different combinations of people and loves and sexual relationships
out there in the world. The number of people involved and their
interrelationships to one another, however, aren't as important
as the principles they all use and hold in common to make the
relationship(s) work.
People being people, emotions being emotions, sex being sex, and
there being only 24 hours in a day, it doesn't really much matter
what kind of relationship you're in, you'll still have to learn
how to deal with communication, emotional responsibility, time
sharing issues, and so on. This goes for monogamous relationships
too, only a lot of monogamous people think it "comes naturally"
in monogamous relationships, and most polyamorous people have
found out the hard way that it really doesn't, because adding
additional people to the mix tends to bring the flaws of leaving
these things to chance right to the fore in a big hot hairy hurry.
They may be tolerable in a twosome, but they are far less easily
overlooked when there are three or more people involved.
So, my little cabbage roll, the first thing you need to be doing
is putting those finely-honed grad-student skills to work and
learning about polyamory. I recommend the www.polyamory.org site for starters, and also the book The Ethical Slut by Catherine Liszt and Dossie Easton (Greenery Press).
One of the things you will discover as you go along and read and
learn is that there is -- such a shame, I know -- no national
clearinghouse for meeting Hot Bi Babes, let alone meeting Hot
Bi Babes who are open to polyamorous relationships. While I'm
at it, let me just remind you, and everyone reading, that bisexual does not necessarily mean nonmonogamous, nor does it necessarily mean that someone wants to have sex
with more than one person at a time, nor that they want to have
sex with people of more than one gender or sex at a time. There
are more criteria here than just finding two bisexual women, putting
them in some metaphorical sexual Shake 'n' Bake baggie, and having
a threesome come out. So even if there were some Central Hot Bi
Babe Casting out there, it still wouldn't necessarily solve your
problem.
This means that your best bet, in terms of possibly meeting people
who share your desires and your preference for polyamory, is to
hang out where there are people who are a) open to polyamory and
b) open to various kinds of alternative sexualities. Depending
on where you live, this may be more or less difficult to do. The
www.polyamory.org website lists quite a lot of local community
groups and organizations for poly folk, and you may be able to
find a group to hang out with that way. Or perhaps you'll start
one. In any event, there are quite a lot of online groups for
discussion of poly issues, and if you can't find any real world
community where you are, online community can be a good place
to hear about other people's experiences and to get a feel for
the rather disparate and complicated "community" that is the larger
group of people who choose not to maintain monogamous relationships.
(Note: beware the flame wars that sometimes crop up in online
communities devoted to polyamory. They are legion and legendary.
Poly folk are indeed a diverse crowd, and while we may all share
an interest in non-monogamy, that may be the only point of common
ground between any two poly people. Wear your fire-retardant jammies.)
Let me say right here that even if you hang out in all the right
places, are queer-friendly as they come, and meet a lot of cool
people and make a lot of cool queer-positive, sex-positive, poly-positive
friends, there is still absolutely no guarantee that you ever
will find two women who are capable both of loving/sexually loving
you and one another simultaneously. But that's not to say that
you won't, either. You can certainly boost your chances by hanging
out with like-minded folks. You're also liable to learn a lot
along the way, and that, my dear, is no bad thing either. And,
in the classic Zen paradox of getting laid, if you're going into
your learning and networking and making friends with people with
the outlook that you're there to see what the possibilities are
-- rather than the outlook that you're going there explicitly
to mack on all the hot bi babes and see how much punani you can
rack up -- you'll find that your chances of actually getting laid
increase enormously.
As you go into this, you need to be clear with yourself about
whether you're looking for simply a sexual threesome, or an threesome
that is also emotional, romantic, or friendship-oriented. Purely
sexual threesomes are a lot easier to come by. All you have to
do is keep asking enough people, and eventually people will say
yes. (As I have been telling people for years, getting laid is
easy as long as you're willing not to be picky.) Relationship
threesomes, or even threesomes in which there is a base level
of friendship and respect and affection between the partners,
are a lot more difficult.
This isn't to say that you should go for the purely sexual threesome
because you're less liable to get the relationship one... in fact,
quite the opposite. I think the relationship threesome is likely
to be a lot more fulfilling for you, because that seems to be
what you actually want. Just make sure that you're clear about
what you do want, because the honesty, work, and negotiation that
go into making any polyamorous relationship work has to begin
with you. If you're not honest with yourself, and willing to work
on your own issues, I guaran-damn-tee you that you're already
building a time bomb into any relationship you may have with anyone
else.
A few other things to think about while you're shuffling all this
'round in the ol' thinkbox:
Bear in mind that being in a threesome doesn't always mean that
you get to be the center of attention, or that being the man in
a MFF threesome means you will always have two hot bi babes at
your beck and call. In reality, it doesn't even mean that your
partners will always be interested, in having sex with you, or
each other. It also doesn't mean they'll always be willing to
have you watch (or participate in any other way) when they have
sex.
Being in a threesome also doesn't mean that you'll never be in
a dyad. Threesomes can separate out into a number of different
duples as well as the threesome altogether, and in many healthy
threesomes, different pairs of partners do spend time together
as dyads, too. That's all okay, and something you'll be needing
to consider. Also bear in mind that there are different configurations
within threesomes. There can be what's called a "Vee," where one
person is partnered with the other two, but the other two aren't
partners with one another (the person being partnered with the
other two is obviously the "apex" of the V). There can be a dyad
with a third added from time to time. There can be an equilateral
triangle where all three partners have similar bonds with one
another. And so on. There's no magic recipe. All of them can work.
Knowing this lets you compromise a bit more fairly -- after all,
you may *want* an equilateral triangle. But what you end up finding
is possible for you and your partners may be quite different.
Read and learn, young Grasshopper. And keep an open mind. There
are a lot of people out there in the world who have unconventional,
nonomonogamous relationship configurations. Just because theirs
don't necessarily look like the one you want for yourself doesn't
mean they have nothing to teach you. Same goes for people who
have conventional, monogamous relationships.
Relationships themselves don't actually change in fundamental
ways when you move from monogamy to polyamory. Folks is still
folks, human needs are still human needs, and what makes a good
relationship good isn't monogamy or nonmonogamy, but responsibility,
honesty, communication, and love. Keep your eyes and ears open
and your humility handy, and good luck.
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